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d...@sussexmall.com  
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(2 users)  More options Aug 21 2008, 2:10 pm
From: d...@sussexmall.com
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 21 2008 2:10 pm
Subject: Ban from eBay Partner Network
Ebay is banning their Partners in the eBay Partner Network affiliate
program.
Some affiliates were making over $30,000 a month from their niche
sites. Some have worked their butts off building sites and then as
they start making money and making a living eBay drops them without
any explanation. There is always two sides of a story however, eBay
has not told their side as of 14:07 eastern time.
Check out the discussion at this link on eBay discussion ( ban from
epn )
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=5200000864&start=0

I have been hearing negative comments from a lot of folks lately. Even
my neighbor was telling me she has been hearing things about sellers
also being banned for no good reason and she does not have a computer.
What is going on?

Thank you,
Dave


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jlaro...@wildblue.net  
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(2 users)  More options Aug 21 2008, 4:23 pm
From: jlaro...@wildblue.net
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Aug 21 2008 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: Ban from eBay Partner Network
Thanks for Posting!  There is some sort of human tragedy going on with
what eBay is doing to large and small sellers  (I'm small). Maybe this
will just turn out to be just one of their self serving glitches.
Hard to imagine they would not WARN people about a change in business
conduct. But if they did, I suppose, it could not be called 'inovative
disruption'.

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carr...@hotpop.com  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 23 2008, 5:46 pm
From: carr...@hotpop.com
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 23 2008 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: Ban from eBay Partner Network
I don't even buy there anymore.  I can't find good deals anymore.
What's happening!

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advancedmi...@aol.com  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 23 2008, 2:46 pm
From: AdvancedMi...@aol.com
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 23 2008 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Ban from eBay Partner Network
Ebay is being very short sited in hurting this many hard working
American without recourse. After visiting the EPN boards I as an
investor are shocked. Ebay is dumping the hard working affiliates that
have been with them for years and admitted by Ebay have done nothing
wrong except non-compliance with some unknown metric they have
imposed.  More disturbing is the admission by Ebay that they have
rampant corruption in the form of cookie stuffers who steal
commissions from legitimate affiliates and a comment from Steve of
EPN  the man responsible for the possibly the worst corporate decision
in Ebays history. Time will tell. Here is a part of the conversation
with Steve which left the dismissed affiliates scratching their heads:
From Steve at EPN EBAY
we’ve been analyzing our program closely over the last few months. I
know there have been a number of requests to provide insight into all
of the metrics via which we are evaluating affiliate traffic, but
unfortunately there’s an active black hat community that is pretty
effective at exploiting these insights so we can’t go into details on
them. However, what I can say is that in addition to earnings per
click metrics (EPC), we look at a variety of metrics to see how users
are behaving when they come to eBay.com – how engaged they are with
our site, and whether the affiliate link clicks lead to incremental
buying activity. As we’ve done this, we have seen a big discrepancy in
how interested and active the traffic is that comes to eBay from
different sources.

Our responsibility in the affiliate marketing channel is to allocate
our resources to best drive incremental demand to our sellers. To that
end, we need to focus on partners who have had the most success in
engaging users who become some of our best buyers on eBay. I
understand that these actions do have a very real impact on some of
our affiliates who have been working with us over the years. For that,
I sincerely apologize, but these decisions are made in the best
interest of eBay's sellers and the overall health of our affiliate
program.

We want to be very clear. Affiliates who received these messages of
expiration last night are not being asked to stop sending traffic to
us due to fraudulent activity or violations of the terms of service.
For those of you who received the message, commissions are not being
reversed, and you will be paid for all valid traffic you have sent to
us to date, and for the next 7 days.

Sincerely,
Steve

As an investor I always go to check out the internal message boards to
see how the members and employees are getting along. A quick visit to
any Ebay message board and its obvious that this company is in
trouble. While I am not offering financial advice concerning Ebay It
is important to realize the relationship between a company and its
users.. This company is not in touch with it sellers or affiliates and
is promoting fraud on the buyers side this information has all been
gleaned fronm Ebay's own message boards...  I will buy Ebay at $8  in
6 months


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umdsa...@gmail.com  
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(1 user)  More options Aug 23 2008, 10:15 pm
From: umdsa...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:15:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 23 2008 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Ban from eBay Partner Network
eBay will go down as another .com eventually. Their greed never ceases
to amaze me. Everything they say is double talk and for every rule
they have there is a counter rule making it all a sham.  Recently they
implemented a system called best chance which takes all the
advertisers out that pay for advertising based on their business
practice and put those in who have the best records, they claim.... A
seller can not really know if ads are going to be shown or excluded
based or their highly scrupulous and self directed system. eBay is
nothing more than a big classidied ad that earns money for selling
your stuff, something the newspaper has not even ventured to try. Now
they are a classified section that takes your money for ad placement
and basically decides where if at it your ads will show up. I think
the whole thing has gone to their head. They denied owning Paypal for
years claiming it was a second company and no there is no conflict of
interest owning the auction haus and the credit card company to
collect quadruple fees. Our total Fees with eBay and Paypal combined
selling.... now reach anywhere from 25-33% Gross. A pretty steep price
to pay for a virtual classifeid section of an Online paper. I was told
recently that they were selling approx...20million an hour. I did a
search a week ago to see they had over 2 million products closing at
anyone time. At 25% in fees between Paypal and eBay that would make
their earning somewhere around 5 million an hour. since there is no
down time and it runs 365 a year. That would leave them with about
approx 100 million Kagillion dollars per year. Also I have a question
for them. How is it possible that we Americans cannot go into a store
a buy and iPhone without goint through ATT but at any time there are
approx. 4000 listed and closing (new) every minute.


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cooperway4  
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 More options Aug 30 2008, 4:49 pm
From: cooperway4 <cooperw...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:49:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Aug 30 2008 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: Ban from eBay Partner Network
It appears that few investors use Google Finance. Ebay's stock seems
unaffected by the actual actions of the company. Makes little sense to
me. But whether you invest in eBay or get out or avoid, my opinion is
that Google Finance (I only recently found it) should be indispensable
no matter what stock you are interested in.

Individuals are what built eBay and I think the most damaging action
that eBay will undertake is the requirement that personal finance
information will be required to be entered during checkout. eBay will
officially become all electronic payments processed through their
checkout in mid-October (though they claim enforcement will not begin
until January). If eBay is now making business decisions for the
sellers, then it's no longer a venue. And if dealing with eBay has
caused concern with identity theft in the past, the concerned buyers
will not all of a sudden think it's safe to share their financial
information with eBay.


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